How to check a car for scrap, and what are the risks of buying a scrap car?

What does “machine scrapped” mean?

The recycling process involves recycling a used car. In this case, the body is freed from all plastic and rubber components. The engine, electrical wiring, windows, wheels, instruments, etc. are removed. The body itself is crushed in a shredder, pressed and sent for melting. The process is labor-intensive, but many industrial enterprises are willing to buy recycled materials, since they are much cheaper.

A car scrapped means that it is deregistered and legally no longer exists. It often happens that the documents for the car are disposed of, but the car itself continues to be driven or even sold. True, when buying such a car, the new owner has problems with registering the car.

About how to check a car for scrap according to the state. number or VIN, we will tell you below.

How to scrap a car by proxy?

If the owner of the car cannot personally handle the disposal, then a trusted person does it, that is, a power of attorney is issued. This does not change the processing procedure; all processes are simply managed by a representative of the owner. At the disposal point, he provides the necessary information about the owner and the car, and also presents a document that indicates that he is authorized to act on behalf of the principal.

Important ! The power of attorney must be certified by a notary. The document contains the details of the car owner, authorized person and information from the notary.

The car is deregistered in the same manner, but the package of documents must contain a power of attorney and information about the authorized person (passport and contact information).

Why are new cars scrapped?

This happens for two reasons:

• The new car was damaged during transportation to the place of sale. The shipment is usually insured, so the insurance company will pay the dealer monetary compensation. In turn, the dealer is obliged to send a new, but already damaged car “for press”.
• The new car reached the buyer, but it turned out to be seriously defective, which during operation caused some kind of emergency (accident, fire, etc.). Such a car must be replaced with a similar one. The defective vehicle is scrapped and the dealer receives compensation from the insurance company or manufacturer.

Apply for recycling of your car online according to the state. number or VIN!

What kind of car can I rent out?

Anything that is outdated, faulty, or its restoration and maintenance will cost more than a modest remuneration when it is sold or scrapped.

Typically, vehicles over 20 years old, as well as cars damaged in an accident that cannot be restored, are handed over for recycling. It is also possible to hand over dismantled vehicles, but in this case it will not always be possible to receive a discount on recycling under the state program.

Is it possible to buy a salvaged car?

“Excuse me! - one of the readers will say. - How is this possible? After all, scrapped cars are dismantled and recycled!” It's not that simple!

In accordance with Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation No. 1001 of November 24, 2008, it is impossible to restore the registration of a scrapped car. But this only applies to those cars that ended up at recycling points. If the car is not included there, it is quite possible to register it. Therefore, a certificate received from the traffic police does not mean that the car will soon be at the collection point. Many owners receive this document only to avoid paying taxes on a vehicle that they do not use. And some are also trying to make money by selling it.

If you deliberately wanted to purchase a salvaged car (prices for such cars are usually one and a half to two times lower than the market average), then by and large there is nothing wrong with such a purchase. The main thing is to know how to register a scrapped car.

Recycling to get a discount when buying a new car

Since 2010, the car recycling program has gained increased popularity, under which citizens who scrapped their old car received a substantial discount of 50 to 110 thousand rubles on the purchase of a new domestically produced or assembled car.

Officially, at the moment, the document for this program is not valid, however, a number of car dealers still provide a discount when scrapping an old car through dealerships or specialized centers. However, not every car can be traded in under this program to receive a discount - the car must meet a number of requirements. You can write off a car simply so that it is not registered as a citizen in any condition.

Basic conditions for recycling an old car to receive a discount:

• the owner of the car is a citizen of the Russian Federation, and the car has been owned for at least a year;
• the vehicle is at least 10 years old and the total weight cannot exceed 3.5 tons;
• all documents are in perfect order, there is a title, there are no discrepancies in unit numbers;
• the vehicle meets the technical condition requirements that apply when handing over a vehicle for recycling.

What are the technical requirements for the car?

To hand over an old vehicle under the recycling program, it is not at all necessary that the car be able to move independently. There are also no requirements for its good condition, but the car must have all the main components and assemblies, including:

• engine;
• transmission,
• glazing and body elements,
• dashboard;
• battery and electrical equipment;
• wheels;
• technical fluids.

Such requirements are established mainly by dealers in order to avoid formal disposal of auto junk, consisting of a body frame and a pair of wheels. But the program itself does not resolve the issues of completing the scrapped vehicle.

How to restore documents if the car is scrapped

To apply for vehicle registration, you must contact the traffic police with the following documents in hand:

• certificate of disposal;
• power of attorney from the owner in writing (it is not necessary to go to a notary);
• photocopies of passports (yours and the seller’s);
• insurance;
• maintenance ticket.

After checking the submitted papers, you will be given an application (of course you need to fill it out) and a payment slip for 3.3 thousand rubles. Next, you need to pay the state fee and, attaching the receipt received from the bank to the rest of the documents, visit the traffic police again to receive a PTS and a registration certificate. With a successful combination of circumstances, you can do it in 1-2 days. Then a standard DCP (purchase and sale agreement) is drawn up, and you are the full owner of a legally registered car.

Cost of scrapping a car

Taking a car for recycling costs several thousand rubles and depends on the chosen recycling point.

However, for all vehicles put into circulation after September 1, 2012, the recycling fee has already been paid. A note about this is placed in the vehicle passport (PTS). There is no need to pay extra for the disposal of such vehicles. Those. The car must be disposed of free of charge .

What to do if the car is scrapped, but you didn’t know about it when you bought it

To avoid problems, it is better to check the car in advance using the traffic police database for disposal. If a scrapped car has already been purchased, there are several ways to resolve the situation.

First option

Find the owner and demand that he restore the registration. The former owner's lack of time is not an argument. Let him write out a general power of attorney for you. And then the procedure is the same as described in the previous section of the article.

Second option

Applicable in the case when the owner of the car declares that I am not me, and the house is not mine, and refuses to do anything to restore the registration of the car. If there is a purchase and sale agreement, the seller can be safely sued. Article 451 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation provides that a gross violation of the rules of the monetary policy may serve as grounds for termination of the transaction and return of funds. Your claim will most likely be successful, but legal proceedings may take a long time.

Third option

If you were unable to find the old owner on your own, contact the traffic police with a request to find the owner of the car. In this case, you can, for example, indicate that you simply found the car in the middle of the road. If the owner is found, use one of the two methods described above.

Disposing of a car correctly: step-by-step instructions

Option with trade-in

To increase demand and increase sales, automakers are introducing recycling or trade-in programs, under which owners can hand over their old cars and receive new ones at a significant discount (from 50,000 rubles to 350,000 rubles, depending on the characteristics of the car) in accordance with the terms of the promotion and special offers.

In 2010-2011 drivers who owned the car for more than a year could return it and receive a discount of 50,000 rubles. for a new car. In this case, the age of the car must be more than 10 years, and its weight must be up to 3.5 tons, according to the rules from Government Decree No. 1194 of December 31, 2009.

Currently, such a state program is not in effect, but drivers can return their old cars to a car dealership. Then it will be handed over for recycling or resold, and the motorist will buy a new one at a discount. A similar system is called trade-in. It has existed abroad for a long time, but in Russia it began to actively spread only in the last ten years. In this case, the owner must comply with the following conditions:

• the car was owned for at least 1 year;
• the car is more than 6 years old, otherwise it can only be sold;
• the vehicle contains all the parts for its movement, and the driver has the right to remove the radio, navigator and other electronics.

More detailed information about the terms and conditions of trade-in can be found on the websites of car manufacturers or in the showrooms of official dealers. At Nissan dealerships, using this system, you can choose a discount of 30,000 rubles. for a new car, reduction in CASCO price for 1 year or up to minus 2% per annum on the loan. And the price is 80,000 rubles if the driver gives them the old car and buys a new one.

It is the recycling of old cars that is offered by Skoda, whose discounts for such a program vary from 40,000 rubles. up to 115,000 rub. - depending on the brand of car.

At the same time, lawyer and auto lawyer Sergei Radko advises not to sell the car to various kinds of resellers who promise to dispose of it themselves. According to him, such cars are often restored and sold, or the documents for them are used to legalize another car: stolen or not cleared through customs. In such cases, the car continues to be registered with the seller, guaranteeing him troubles: the accrual of transport tax, fines or financial liability in case of an accident.

Self-disposal

If a motorist wants to dispose of the car himself without buying a new one, then he should follow the instructions below.

What controversial situations may arise when disposing of a car?

As a rule, owners of scrapped cars go to court if they continue to be charged transport tax on a car that no longer exists or because of incorrect recycling and the inability to deregister the car with the traffic police.

Thus, Ivan Popov* appealed to the Kalininsky District Court of the city of Ufa of the Republic of Bashkortostan with a claim to recognize the recycling act as valid and to deregister the car against JSC Bashtormet and the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate. Popov explained that he got into an accident, severely wrecked the car, and decided to scrap it. His son did this. He turned to an employee of JSC Bashtormet, who accepted the car as black scrap, destroyed it and issued an acceptance certificate. Subsequently, Popov found out that his relative was helped not by an employee of the recycling organization, but by an entrepreneur who issued an invalid document. For this reason, traffic police officers refused to deregister the car. In addition, Popov had to pay transport tax, and he also did not receive compensation for scrapping the car. Therefore, the plaintiff asked to recover from the defendants compensation in the amount of 38,049 rubles, compensation for moral damage, which he estimated at 25,000 rubles.

During the court hearing, Judge Oksana Bikchurina examined two original acceptance certificates (plaintiff and defendant) and found differences in them. Thus, Popov’s document was drawn up in violation of the requirements of GOST 2787-75. It incorrectly indicates the percentage of metal contamination (9% instead of 50%), there is no VIN of the car, therefore it is impossible to determine that Popov’s car was scrapped. The defendant's report did not contain a description of the car at all. Therefore, these acts were not enough to deregister the vehicle, and the court rejected Popov’s request. The decision was not appealed (case No. 2-642/2020).

In another case, MIFTS of Russia No. 13 for the Rostov region filed a claim with the Novocherkassk City Court of the Rostov Region to recover transport tax from Dmitry Lunev*, which he has not paid since 2014. At the court hearing, the defendant insisted that he disposed of the car back in 2010 and deregistered it with the traffic police, so he has no tax debts.

Judge Olga Vlasova requested information about the registration of Lunev’s car. According to the registration card, the vehicle is still registered to the plaintiff, but Lunev did not hand over the documents, license plates and title of the car to the traffic police after allegedly disposing of it. The court recovered the tax debt from the plaintiff. He did not appeal the decision, agreeing with it (case No. 2a-493/2020).

Rubric “Question-answer”

Lawyer and car lawyer Sergei Radko explained that the former owner can deregister a car based on a disposal certificate or due to its sale. The new owner has the right to perform these actions on behalf of the seller by proxy. But he will not be able to register the car in his name, since the car is destroyed and the traffic police will not be able to inspect it, the expert adds.

Lawyer and auto lawyer Sergei Radko answers that in order to deregister a vehicle for recycling, you need a certificate of its actual destruction. If the former owner managed to obtain this virtually fake document, then disposal was illegal. But most likely, the previous owner stopped registering the car due to its sale. Then the driver needs to submit an application for renewal of registration, attaching the vehicle title, purchase and sale agreement, and insurance.

Lawyer and auto lawyer Sergei Radko says that the owner will not be able to resume accounting after disposal. It is better to go to court with a new claim to recover the cost of the destroyed car from the ex-spouse. After all, it is actually impossible to use the car for its intended purpose, since this requires state registration.

Lawyer and auto lawyer Sergei Radko explained that it is impossible to simply remove a car from the scrappage register - you need to actually destroy it. In this case, you need to contact the traffic police with an application to terminate the registration of the car due to its sale. Then the former owner will not receive transport tax and fines from the traffic police, the expert adds.

*—name and surname have been changed by the editor.

• Marina Kensheva

Is it possible to drive a scrapped car?

The Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation does not provide for any special punishment for driving a scrapped car. However, for a number of reasons, such a ride can cost a pretty penny. Including, in accordance with Art. 12 of the Code of Administrative Offences, driving an unregistered car will cost 500 rubles. Repeated violation will increase the fine to 5 thousand rubles. Also, traffic police officers will have every right to send the car to the impound lot. There it will remain until the violations are eliminated (that is, until you register it).

Collection points for cars for recycling in Moscow

There are quite a lot of companies providing car recycling services in Moscow, so finding where to dispose of your car will not be difficult. Such organizations, for example, include state unitary enterprises:

• "Ekotekhprom";
• "Mosavtokholod";
• “Engineering Documents for registering a car with the traffic police in 2021.”

  3Visit the registration office of the traffic police and receive a certificate of deregistration of the car.

  To save your time, make an appointment with the traffic police online or through the terminal at the registration department. You will find step-by-step instructions on how to sign up online to deregister a car in Moscow in the article Rules for registering a car with the traffic police in 2021.

  There is no need to bring the car to the traffic police. When deregistering a vehicle for recycling, it is not necessary to submit the vehicle for inspection.

How is the procedure performed?

The procedure for deregistering a car for recycling is quite simple; any citizen can handle it without the involvement of intermediaries. You just need to follow the established procedure, which is as follows:

1. Contact the nearest traffic police department with your passport and available documents and car license plates. If it is not possible to do this in person, you can involve any person by issuing a notarized power of attorney in his name. The document must contain all the data and powers of the person.
2. Take a form in the established form to terminate the registration of a vehicle, marking the reason as “disposal of the vehicle.”
3. After checking all the originals provided, the inspector makes a decision. If the car is written off, the applicant receives a corresponding certificate.

Only those documents that are available are provided to the traffic police for vehicle disposal. If they were stolen, lost or transferred to the buyer, then only a passport will be sufficient. In the case of legal entities, everything is a little more complicated. For them, the procedure is more difficult and requires more careful preparation, collecting a package of documents for their representative.

Help contents

A recycling certificate is an official document drawn up in a certain form, in accordance with the standards established by regulations. It records the following data:

• about the owner of the vehicle;
• about the car: registration number, make, body number, PTS details, vehicle certificate (certificate), car category, release date;
• position of the person who issued the certificate;
• date of preparation of the paper.

Filling out all mandatory items is strictly regulated by law.

Sample document

A sample form can be easily found on the Internet or at the stands of a recycling company. In the appendix to the regulatory legal act, you can download and print the form itself.

Used car

Is it possible to purchase a used car through a recycling program? New cars are expensive, and discounts for purchasing them through the recycling program are small. But used cars are not included in the program.

The government finances the purchase of only new vehicles, since it supports the main goal of the program: stimulating the sales of domestic manufacturers, who increase the number of cars sold, increasing tax contributions to the budget.

And then the recycling program is financed from it. For this reason, you cannot purchase a used vehicle under the recycling program .

Recycling check

If you are going to purchase a car, do not forget to check it for recycling.

The procedure for deregistration due to disposal is a fairly popular phenomenon among those who want to avoid transport tax on a car that is not in use.

You can check your car for recycling:

• through the traffic police website;
• Autocode;
• various Internet portals.

To check you may need:

• VIN code;
• body/chassis number;
• registration numbers.

Services may fail because sometimes data is not entered into the database. Therefore, checking online is not always a reliable way to find out whether a car has been scrapped, since sometimes vehicles are returned from scrappage. Then contact the traffic police immediately.

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Certificate of disposal

It is issued by the organization after acceptance of the car.

The document can be provided before the actual disassembly of the vehicle for parts.

The help contains information:

• FULL NAME. the contacting counterparty (owner, owner of the car);
• information about the vehicle;
• basis for disposal - certificate of deregistration of the vehicle;
• date of completion of the work.

The certificate is signed by an authorized specialist of the organization. It is accompanied by a car acceptance certificate and payment documents.

The certificate may be needed to purchase a car under a state or private recycling program and to confirm that the owner of the car dismantled it legally.

The document may need to be submitted to the tax authorities if MREO specialists have not provided information about deregistration of the car.

The document form is presented here.

The procedure for obtaining a certificate through a car dealer

Often the recycling procedure is carried out not through a special organization, but through a car dealership. This is allowed when the store operates under a trade-in program.

According to the terms of recycling, the owner of the vehicle sells it through the dealership and purchases another car there at a discount. If a client hands over a car under the trade-in program, the store itself handles all the paperwork. The owner of the vehicle receives all relevant documents.

How to restore PTS and STS to a car after scrapping

To do this, the owner of the car will have to apply to the MREO. It will be necessary to carry out an examination of the vehicle to confirm that it is ready for use.

The inspection report and the expert’s conclusions will become the basis for restoring the registration.

If you refuse to register a car, if the car actually meets safe technical parameters, you will have to restore the registration through the courts. To do this, it is recommended to seek the support of a competent lawyer.